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| Annette Insdorf and James Kendrick | 
In Cineversary podcast episode #60, host 
Erik Martin honors the 30th anniversary of 
Schindler’s List and the 25th anniversary of 
Saving Private Ryan, both directed by Steven Spielberg. Joining him this month is 
Annette Insdorf, professor in the Graduate Film Program of Columbia’s School of the Arts and author of 
Indelible Shadows: Film and the Holocaust; and 
James Kendrick, professor of film at Baylor University and author of 
Darkness in the Bliss-Out: A Reconsideration of the Films of Steven Spielberg. Erik, Annette, and James will explore why these films still resonate all these years later, ways they were inspiring and innovative, what they reveal about Spielberg, and more.
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